That’s an interesting point ! When I ask the so called “Identity seekers” (Hoviyat Talab) where is the great differentiating items that you are so concerned about them ? they answer we are re-establishing them ! and they present a mixture of products that are new to our Azeri culture . As an example , they can’t show a mere single paper from a father to a son in Turkish in all history , or a single writing on a tomb , neither in Iranian Azarbaijan , nor in Baku , and they cry for lack of freedom for education in Azeri!
Our tradition in writing was in Persian , and imposing new system of writing is not ” re-establishment” but “re-creation” and “innovation” .

“Unfortunately, Iranian society is not a matrix that accepts various cultures and religions. Iranian society only promotes the dominant Persian and dominant Shia religion.”

Then why in this 1000 years of Turkic dynasties and as you say , more than 50% majority of Turks in Iran , there have been no opposition to such “Persian dominancy” ?!

Do you think we Azeris in Iran are masochists?! And we were so in all of our history?

“why not fight to gain equality in Iran? How can you not feel sympathy for members of your own distinct ethnicity….I suggest you go start speaking Turkish in front of a group of Persians and report that they won’t call your language, the language of donkeys. Sen turkce bilirsen?”

Yakhchi da biliram , but ethnic jokes are not good reasons for a political movement , if it was , the Ardabil’s should make the same move against us (Tabrizi’s ) that make joke for them !
And again you in Canada is alike Alice in wonderland , knowing not that I do speak everyday with my patients in my clinic in Azeri and no one has ever made a negative reaction in my whole life!!

Gandih,Martin Luterking and mandela were best human rights activister tru suporting ethnics movment againt unequality.

I told that you will be accused by lying(and dirty missinformation) is you can’t show document
that Azerbaijani destroyed Armenian stores and etc.

And let’s see what was your document

1)you send this link and wanted that i can google news if i don’t belive it.

This is your link “document”:

http://aramanoogian.blogspot.com/2006/05/azeris-in-iran-burnt-armenian-national.html

if you klick it,you read this:

27.05.2006 13:38 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Participants of a rally in Tebriz burnt Armenian national flag, fixed in front of an electric equipment store, owned by ethnic Armenian Abrahamian. The owner of the store was beaten, the store was destroyed, reports APA.

A)News com from PanArmenian(you think they tell tru?)who referer to APA

B)In APA website i searched many variant of this news,but zero result.Can you maybe search it better and showe me this news in APA?

C)As you told i google this news and fund only Armenian sites.This was result of google search:

http://www.google.no/search?hl=no&source=hp&q=Azeris+in+Iran+Burnt+Armenian+National+Flag&btnG=Google-s%C3%B8k&meta=&rlz=1R2GGLL_en&aq=null&oq=

They are only Armenian sites,but in one result you see this

Armenian News – CNN TO BROADCAST TRAILER ON ARMENIA – [ Oversett denne siden ]27 May 2006 … AZERIS IN IRAN BURNT ARMENIAN NATIONAL FLAG. Participants of a rally in Tebriz burnt Armenian national flag, fixed in front of an electric …
http://www.armtown.com/news/en/pan/…/18195/ – I hurtigbuffer –

Interesting was that if you klick, it’s nothing about CNN and burning Armenian flag ….
It is about Tourist reklam for Armenia in CNN. please,Check it self.

Next intressting is that there are many Armenian in Tabriz
,but they couldn’t take a photo from this destroyed shop or minimum give adress for this shop.photo and adress aren’t really documant that azerbaijani did it,but they couldn’t minimum show a photo.You can’t fund one independent news agansy who brodcasted this news.

Isn’t this dirty lie?
You want with such lies and propaganda justifing killing and torturing unarmed demonstrants?

In some of this links supose that American’s $75 milion go to protesting Azerbaijani.Israel,Turky and rep Azerbaijan suprting and planing south azerbaijani movment.Lie again and again.
Lik this link from 2006:

http://www.regnum.ru/english/648160.html

Now we know that all that $75 milion and much more gone to persian media(VOA/persian,Radio Farda/persian).
I think south Azerbaijani media from USA get les than 1% of persian media.
That is same propotion from other countery(BBC/England,frence,German,Israel,..)
You know that Turky stoped brodcasting Gunaz TV fram Turksat.
Rep Azerbaijan is same and have no media for movment in south Azerbaijan.

Now,we have many document that other counteries goverment suport persians media.
Now,who is conected with other conteries?

Dear Yek Irani,Armenian in karabak had autonomi in rep Azerbaijan and had owen schools and…
You know that Jerevan started separatism with Russians military suport.At that time Azerbaijan was infront of independent movment against Russia.

Even to day Armenia have military suport from Russian.
We know that whithout Russia Armenia couldn’t occupate 20% of Azerbaijan and can’t keep under occupation if Russia don’t give military suport.
This is independesi according you?
No,this is occupation accordin UN resolutions.

You jump very fast to other subjects lik, some body died in custedy or som people destoied semetery.
I don’t meen that everything is ok in Azerbaijan.
But alltime occupanter are more diktarurs.Dashnaks shooting and killing in parlament in Jerevan.Are they your freedom fighters(killing in parlament)?

About your video link:
I am aganst vandalism.If Azerbaijani vandalised,be sure that occupants has done much more.But they have strong lobby in west and Russia.World seeing and hearing occupant ,not occupated

At the end dear Yek Irani,I can’t have dialoge with you if you missinform and don’t care about that unarmed people get kild or torturd.I think better that you have dialoge with som psykolog/psykiater insted having dialoge with me,if you are happy of others missory.
Hope you think litle more and learn about empati.

Dear Farzin,Thanks alot for this blog and good luck in yours efforts for human rights.

Unfortunately, Iranian society is not a matrix that accepts various cultures and religions. Iranian society only promotes the dominant Persian and dominant Shia religion.

“I don’t think the claim of human rights activism is in correlation with promoting ethnic frustration and boycotting human rights movements for ethnic reasons .”

This makes absolutely no sense. If you are trying to prevent another May 2006 from happening, why not fight to gain equality in Iran? How can you not feel sympathy for members of your own distinct ethnicity. My friend even in America and Canada, it is difficult to express one’s language and culture among Iranians, not just in Iran. I suggest you go start speaking Turkish in front of a group of Persians and report that they won’t call your language, the language of donkeys. Sen turkce bilirsen?

Asad I am not sure where to start and where to end.

But this will be my last message to you, since you accused me of lying.

Let me start with the fact that you accused me of lying:

http://aramanoogian.blogspot.com/2006/05/azeris-in-iran-burnt-armenian-national.html

And please do not say I created this weblog!

Just google the news and you’ll find other sites. Hope you understand why I will discontinue my talk with you.

But one thing you said, should not go unanswered.

B)
You said: “Why 17 years old cuntery is not afraid separatism,”

LOL! You mean the country that lost 20% of its lands to separatism is not afraid of separatism.

As per your funny autonomy in the republic of Azerbaijan, Armenians already separated because they can’t stand that pan-Turk country.

Your backers even destroyed Armenian monuments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZu2zqFE_gI

So is the model you have for Iran?

I am sure if you give the Talysh and Lezgis the chance, they will do the same.

Infact the country is so fascist that it jails an Iranian Talysh for stating the truth that Babak Khorramdin did not have anything to do with Turks. He actually fought against Turkish slaves of the Caliph and the half Turkish caliph Muta’ism.

He was jailed
http://www.anspress.com/nid51166.html

Then killed:
http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=106367

Trust me if you pan-Turks had any sense of decency, Armenians would not want to separate from the republic of Azerbaijan. Just like they don’t want to from Iran. And the republic of Azerbaijan is very scared of its Lezgin separatists and Talysh separatists. And separatism in general (Armenians already did it).

This was the only Tolishi newspaper and it got banned, its editor jailed, his son was killed in a government car accident and finally he was killed in Mr. Aliev’s jail. As per Kurds, you are not their spokeman. Even me whose family is half from Kermanshah do not speak for a whole people.

As per what Farzin said, I have an Azerbaijani friend who already has listed all slogans he heard:
http://prana.persianblog.ir/post/228/%d8%b4%d8%b9%d8%a7%d8%b1%d9%87%d8%a7%d9%8a_%d8%aa%d8%ac%d8%b2%d9%8a%d9%87%e2%80%8c%d8%b7%d9%84%d8%a8%d8%a7%d9%86_%d8%af%d8%b1_%d8%a7%d8%ba%d8%aa%d8%b4%d8%a7%d8%b4%d8%a7%d8%aa_%d8%a7%d8%ae%d9%8a%d8%b1_%d8%b4%d9%85%d8%a7%d9%84_%d8%ba%d8%b1%d8%a8_%d8%a7%d9%8a%d8%b1%d8%a7%d9%86

Or do I have to find these from your own sites like tribun.com, azadtribun.com and the rest of it?

“Aryanism” in IRI is a bad joke because “Aryanism” is madeup by pan-Turk cooks and has no academic backing (and by academic I mean not pourpirar/zehtani/asgharzadeh types).

You can’t compare the Green movement to some angry youths who lack understanding of history and are brainwashed.

But since you accused me of lying, that ends my conversation with you. And since Farzin is leaving his internship, I feel I have done enough and other readers will judge.

You have published a page(page 134) that ordered genecid(against Azerbaijani) who nonevilence protested and wanted there basic humans rights.
You don’t care about it and don’t want minimum say that you are sorry.
You know that i many demokratic countery your publishing is a criminal act.
I used 30 min to find this in your 300 page document.Think how many like this can we find if we read all.
You think that we can belive that you really care about Armenian or Kurds?

you say:

The difference between Baluch/Kurd and you guys are that Baluch/Kurd do not say:
1) Death to Armenians
2) Persian language is the dog’s language!
3) Death to Russians
4) Kurds are immigrants and etc.
and
Azerbaijani friends tell me there was not just one or two, but quite an amount of people. Also they told me the protestors would pickout any random non-Azeri and beat him. They also destroyed Armenian stores and etc.

Dear Yeak Irani
I have very well infomation that even not one armenien stores or shops window get heart during demonstrations in Tabriz and other cities.I grow opp in Armenian part of our citiy in Azerbaijan and am 100% for that i say.
That you saying “destroyed Armenian stores” is dirty lie.
Can you show one dokument about”destroyed Armenian stores”?It is dirty lie if you can’t prov it.(Agar din nadarid la agal azade bashid)

Many hundred tusends in Azerbaijani provinces in 2006 demonstrated with out organization.

A)You know that it can be agents from regime who say som slogens and burn banks and busses(this happened i green movment too,according Mir H.Mosavi).It was only some bandrols in demostrations in azerbaijani citis.Could you see this word in bandrols?In Azerbaijani students demonstration(was more organizaid)you never hear or read such things.

B)I 2006 it was som smal grupp(Etellat agents act i belive) which told that this tre nations are anemy with Azerbaijani.They didn’t told death.Azerbaijani activist understanded that this words come from agents and you did not heard such words later in movment.
This nations in last hundred years were not so friendly aganist Azerbaijani and almost all tre have occupat part of Azerbaijan(it will be too long here to document this occupations,Clear exampel: Armenia have 20% of Azerbaijan under occupation).

Armenians demonstrating in april every year and say death to turks in Tehran(many milion turks live in Tehran).Have you ever published any thing aganst armenian when Armenian say death to one ethnic grupp?I am in generely aganist saying death.

C)Green movments many leaders telling death for Israil,Russia,Many leaders in green movment have many krime in backgrunds.Use allah akbar and religon as ideologi in movment.Is green movment perfect,but Azerbaijani movment not?
Green movment learnt unarmed sivil movment from Azerbaijani movment.
I am almost sure that this green movment can’t give really demokrasi and human rights to Iranian,but i am not aganst this movment.It can give islamic or ayrian demokrasi/human rights and we know well from history that it will end in totalitarism and diktaturship.This isn’t first revolution we do in Iran(about 4 revolution in last 104 years).Azerbaijani don’t want do same misstake again and let ayrianism take over revolution and end it in diktaturship.
Azerbaijani movments taking more and more international human rights(not ayrian or islamic human rights) as movments ideologi.

If Khomenis revolution moved back Iran 1300 years,aryanism orienteited revolution will move back Iran 2500 years.

You all time give exampel from Turky or rep Azerbaijan.I belive that south Azerbaijani movment is independent movment and is in Iran.
But let me give one example.In Rep Azerbaijani konstitution you can fund that if 30 tusen man sign a petition,they can get federal or autonom stat in Azerbaijan.
Why 17 years old cuntery is not afraid separatism,but 2500 years(according) old countery(Iran) is so hysteric and getting panic to hear autonomi or federalism?
You say 90% kurd,Azerbaijani,… love Iran.
I don’t think that this etnic grupps hate Iran.They hate Aryanism,Totalitarism and fascism.

You know that Ahamadinejad couldn’t do this crims in Tehran, if Azerbaijan was federal and had power to help Tehran now.As they did i Mashrote.
Yek Irani,you see that when aryanism oriented in Tehran shoot Sattar khan and don’t give anjoman haye ayalati velayati,it end i totalitarism and 1003 years later Azerbaijan have no possibelity to help those grandsons from get kild,torturd and be sexual humaliated.

That is the reason why Azerbaijan act as oven demokratic movment and be in coalution with other etnics demokratiks grupp,if we don’t want do same misstake as did in Mashrote and 1979 revolution.

Thanks

To Farzin,

I thank you for uphelding freedom of speech. However, even the message of Behnam should not have been deleted. Nor my message in response to him. I will stop though accusing people of being X or Y.

However, to your response to me.
What does saying death to Armenians, Russians, Persians, Kurds and etc. have to do with civil rights and African Americans? Did African Americans also said death to Mexicans (compare to Armenians)! Give me a break, your anaologies are so unfortunate that it is ridicolous. As if Armenians, Russians are suppressing Azerbaijanis in Iran. I am against ethnic chavaunism, but you have found the most ridicolous analogy (that to African Americans and if anything, it is the native Iranic population that can claim to be analogous to Afro-Americans/Native Amernicans rather than the colonizers of Iran i.e. Turks/Arab), that is comparing Azerbaijanis in Iran who are represented at every level with African Americans.
Thankfully there is enough Azerbaijanis like Aft, Kaveh Farrokh and etc. to standup to pan-Turkists.

The African-American analogy shows that you have a lot to learn about history. African-Americans were taken as slaves. Turks in Iran came as conquerers who massacared the natives. African Americans were never ruling class. Turks in Iran have ruled, and also make up more than their share in the government, army, economy and etc.

The saying of “death to Armenians” shows in my opinion that 2006 stuff is tied to other countries that have problems with Armenians. In Iran we never had problem with Armenians.

Let me end with this, although I have noted it before. I have talked to many Zazas in Turkey, Kurds in Turkey and etc. I already told you my background (although Behnam is free to believe what he wants). In the long term, the problem of Turkish nationalism with Iranians is historical and nothing more. And the issue will hopefully be solved with land/population exchange of Iranic(and I’ll include Armenia here as I consider them an ally that we cannot let the Turks destory)/Turkic adjacent areas and this way both Iran/Armenia will prosper and the Turkey/Azerbaijan. Majority of Iranian Azeris (all those that Asgharzadeh calls Manqurt) will also stay with Iran as well. So this problem of Turkish nationalism will be solved in its natural way hopefully if there are smart heads.

That is my solution and I’ll leave it at that.

My aim in this blog is to show that Iran is composed of various identities. You can be an Azerbaijani and an Iranian at the same time. The homogenization of Iran is counter-productive to its development. Even before I started this internship, I would say that I was an Azeri from Iran if someone asked for my ethnicity. This was before I had any idea of the current movement. If someone asked from what city, I would say Urmia. Why? Because I refuse to be ashamed of my language, skin and upbringing.

Minorities in Iran want their stories heard. That article you sent was in frustration for the assault of May 2006. If you read my previous posts, there have been no protests since June 15. That is because the media refuses to cover Azerbaijan and all of our attempts to report on Azerbaijani cities were shut down. There was a disproportionate number of security forces in the Azerbaijani areas than in the Persian areas. Also, yes, Azerbaijanis are frustrated because during the May 2006 uprising, nobody told their story. They were left in the cold by the same people in government who praise the beauty of the Turkish language.

My goal is not separatism, pan-Turkism or reversely to promote the homogenization of Iran. My goal is to show that ethnic minorities exist and they are struggling for their own identity and rights. I am happy that people are commenting and discussing these issues because it in turn is getting quite a bit of exposure. I hope many in the western world are seeing that Iran is not the Persian monolith that is shrouded by the nuclear issue.