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		<title>By: Elizabeth Mandelman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Mandelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mz Elizabeth,
                 I have been following your debate with increasing dread. I fully understand your quest to Protect the Woman and Children of OUR country from the evils of man, but I fail to understand your methods. Could you please explain to us, why you are here, In Canada, attempting to change OUR gun laws?? I would think, that if you were so dedicated, you might try this crap back home? Seeing as you are an American and all. Oh wait, don&#039;t the American&#039;s have an amendment to their constitution that Allows them the FREEDOM to own guns? I&#039;ll make it plain as day for you, GO HOME. We have our own, Home Grown Liberal Wackoo&#039;s to deal with</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mz Elizabeth,<br />
                 I have been following your debate with increasing dread. I fully understand your quest to Protect the Woman and Children of OUR country from the evils of man, but I fail to understand your methods. Could you please explain to us, why you are here, In Canada, attempting to change OUR gun laws?? I would think, that if you were so dedicated, you might try this crap back home? Seeing as you are an American and all. Oh wait, don&#8217;t the American&#8217;s have an amendment to their constitution that Allows them the FREEDOM to own guns? I&#8217;ll make it plain as day for you, GO HOME. We have our own, Home Grown Liberal Wackoo&#8217;s to deal with</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhail</title>
		<link>http://advocacynet.org/wordpress-mu/emandelman/2009/07/18/profile-dr-barbara-kane/comment-page-1/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikhail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth, thank you for correcting that mistake in my posting as per the erratum I put up right after. It makes the discussion cleaner.  Very classy. I appreciate it.  You have my respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth, thank you for correcting that mistake in my posting as per the erratum I put up right after. It makes the discussion cleaner.  Very classy. I appreciate it.  You have my respect.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhail</title>
		<link>http://advocacynet.org/wordpress-mu/emandelman/2009/07/18/profile-dr-barbara-kane/comment-page-1/#comment-295</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikhail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth, I have no disagreement with the need to protect the weak. 

I live as the protector of my wife, and my two daughters (though she will say that most of the time it is her protecting me).  Anyone who tries to do anything bad to them will have to kill me first.  What makes you think that I would support anything that would harm them?  I think you are setting up a straw horse. 

Women and children, being the weaker, have historically been harmed by men. No dispute.  It happens in every culture, every continent, and every human period. No exceptions.  It doesn&#039;t happen in my house, though, and that&#039;s the only part that I can address. I can&#039;t, and won&#039;t, apologize for what someone else has done. 

It&#039;s about the strong vs the weak.  Take away all the guns in the world. Does the equation change?  No.  Further, not that I want to argue the &quot;self defense&quot; part of gun ownership, since too often that become the main issue, and I don&#039;t feel it should be (freedom and rights are the main issue), but isn&#039;t a gun the best equalizer between the small and defenseless and the strong and powerful? Shouldn&#039;t a woman be able to get a gun for self defense if she feels it necessary? How many women have been killed by spouses and ex boyfriends who had been harrasing them for months or years? HOw many of those murders had been under &quot;court orders&quot; to stay away? What good did they do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth, I have no disagreement with the need to protect the weak. </p>
<p>I live as the protector of my wife, and my two daughters (though she will say that most of the time it is her protecting me).  Anyone who tries to do anything bad to them will have to kill me first.  What makes you think that I would support anything that would harm them?  I think you are setting up a straw horse. </p>
<p>Women and children, being the weaker, have historically been harmed by men. No dispute.  It happens in every culture, every continent, and every human period. No exceptions.  It doesn&#8217;t happen in my house, though, and that&#8217;s the only part that I can address. I can&#8217;t, and won&#8217;t, apologize for what someone else has done. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s about the strong vs the weak.  Take away all the guns in the world. Does the equation change?  No.  Further, not that I want to argue the &#8220;self defense&#8221; part of gun ownership, since too often that become the main issue, and I don&#8217;t feel it should be (freedom and rights are the main issue), but isn&#8217;t a gun the best equalizer between the small and defenseless and the strong and powerful? Shouldn&#8217;t a woman be able to get a gun for self defense if she feels it necessary? How many women have been killed by spouses and ex boyfriends who had been harrasing them for months or years? HOw many of those murders had been under &#8220;court orders&#8221; to stay away? What good did they do?</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Mandelman</title>
		<link>http://advocacynet.org/wordpress-mu/emandelman/2009/07/18/profile-dr-barbara-kane/comment-page-1/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Mandelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikhail,
My knowledge of history has taught me that protecting women and children is an issue of human rights, and needs to be taken seriously.  History has illustrated that there is indeed a need to craft legislation that will help to curb violence and against women.  It&#039;s unfortunate, but it&#039;s true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikhail,<br />
My knowledge of history has taught me that protecting women and children is an issue of human rights, and needs to be taken seriously.  History has illustrated that there is indeed a need to craft legislation that will help to curb violence and against women.  It&#8217;s unfortunate, but it&#8217;s true.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikhail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikhail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve recently become a gun enthusiast. It was a long time curiosity of mine, and I finally had the time to get going with it.  I am a middle aged man, a university professor, father of two daughter, immigrant to Canada, and married to a former refugee entrant to Canada. 

I took the safety course, I&#039;m taking trapshooting lessons, will do a tournament in a month (where I will be humbled no doubt).  I&#039;m trying to find a gun club to join where I can do this activity, as well as other activities such as target shooting and pistol shooting. 

I find the process a bit onerous, but I understand the need to know who is buying guns, and to check that they are not someone at risk for doing something bad.  But beyond that point, I am less understanding. Why was it necessary to drive all the gun clubs out of my city? I have to drive 1 - 2 hours to go anywhere with decent facilities?  Pistol shooting, rifle shooting, and shotgun shooting are accepted sports anywhere int the world, and have been part of the Olympics since 1896. 1896!!

Why have a bunch of people decided, with no convincing evidence, that guns are to be regulated out of existence, demonized until even their name cannot be mentioned, a la 1984.  In my daughters&#039; schools the teachers have been told not to use the word &quot;bullets&quot;, and substitute it with &quot;nuggets&quot;.  How stupid is that?

Can&#039;t responsible citizens make their own choices, rather than be controlled by the fears of others?  The gun restriction movement is creating the framework for disarming a nation. Gun owners know this, and hence mistrust any attempt to enumerate, identify, or limit their choices. I understand their fears, MUCH MORE than I understand the need for people like yourself and others to take away freedoms from citizens who have committed no crime, paid taxes faithfully, and jumped through all the the tedious hoops laid in their path.  

Have you no shame? No sense of history? For history tells us that such attempts to control the citizenry NEVER lead to the desired outcome, and either lead to reaction, or lead to ever more oppression.  Back off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve recently become a gun enthusiast. It was a long time curiosity of mine, and I finally had the time to get going with it.  I am a middle aged man, a university professor, father of two daughter, immigrant to Canada, and married to a former refugee entrant to Canada. </p>
<p>I took the safety course, I&#8217;m taking trapshooting lessons, will do a tournament in a month (where I will be humbled no doubt).  I&#8217;m trying to find a gun club to join where I can do this activity, as well as other activities such as target shooting and pistol shooting. </p>
<p>I find the process a bit onerous, but I understand the need to know who is buying guns, and to check that they are not someone at risk for doing something bad.  But beyond that point, I am less understanding. Why was it necessary to drive all the gun clubs out of my city? I have to drive 1 &#8211; 2 hours to go anywhere with decent facilities?  Pistol shooting, rifle shooting, and shotgun shooting are accepted sports anywhere int the world, and have been part of the Olympics since 1896. 1896!!</p>
<p>Why have a bunch of people decided, with no convincing evidence, that guns are to be regulated out of existence, demonized until even their name cannot be mentioned, a la 1984.  In my daughters&#8217; schools the teachers have been told not to use the word &#8220;bullets&#8221;, and substitute it with &#8220;nuggets&#8221;.  How stupid is that?</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t responsible citizens make their own choices, rather than be controlled by the fears of others?  The gun restriction movement is creating the framework for disarming a nation. Gun owners know this, and hence mistrust any attempt to enumerate, identify, or limit their choices. I understand their fears, MUCH MORE than I understand the need for people like yourself and others to take away freedoms from citizens who have committed no crime, paid taxes faithfully, and jumped through all the the tedious hoops laid in their path.  </p>
<p>Have you no shame? No sense of history? For history tells us that such attempts to control the citizenry NEVER lead to the desired outcome, and either lead to reaction, or lead to ever more oppression.  Back off.</p>
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		<title>By: criminal background check</title>
		<link>http://advocacynet.org/wordpress-mu/emandelman/2009/07/18/profile-dr-barbara-kane/comment-page-1/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>criminal background check</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would be met, great success in?Branches of US, - Sub PrimeThis.Is a readjustment, investments have shrunk.-minute walk along criminal background check, tools for a to completely satiate.Side-step the traditional, everything up with.,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would be met, great success in?Branches of US, &#8211; Sub PrimeThis.Is a readjustment, investments have shrunk.-minute walk along criminal background check, tools for a to completely satiate.Side-step the traditional, everything up with.,</p>
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		<title>By: GoodLord</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoodLord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it interesting that you decide what people can and can&#039;t read.

I guess the truth hurts. It is quite clear you are not interested in debate and/ or facts, nor are you interested in helping women or other victims of violence. Otherwise you would stop wasting your time and energy on a computer program that prints out pieces of paper. Oh yeah, I forgot, having my car registered and a piece of paper in my glove box makes me the best and most polite driver on god&#039;s green earth. How dumb of me to forget that.
Everything that blows a big hole into your repetitive emotional stories just gets deleted. Convenient, isn&#039;t it. Like it never existed.

You are a very selfish and immature person. It is people like you who deny access to the tools victims of physical and psychological violence need and want for no good logical reason. One can not even carry a tazer or pepper spray in one&#039;s purse thanks to people like you and attitudes like yours. 

Bravo, Elizabeth. I hope you sleep well at night knowing that yet again you didn&#039;t face the real world and it&#039;s issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that you decide what people can and can&#8217;t read.</p>
<p>I guess the truth hurts. It is quite clear you are not interested in debate and/ or facts, nor are you interested in helping women or other victims of violence. Otherwise you would stop wasting your time and energy on a computer program that prints out pieces of paper. Oh yeah, I forgot, having my car registered and a piece of paper in my glove box makes me the best and most polite driver on god&#8217;s green earth. How dumb of me to forget that.<br />
Everything that blows a big hole into your repetitive emotional stories just gets deleted. Convenient, isn&#8217;t it. Like it never existed.</p>
<p>You are a very selfish and immature person. It is people like you who deny access to the tools victims of physical and psychological violence need and want for no good logical reason. One can not even carry a tazer or pepper spray in one&#8217;s purse thanks to people like you and attitudes like yours. </p>
<p>Bravo, Elizabeth. I hope you sleep well at night knowing that yet again you didn&#8217;t face the real world and it&#8217;s issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Sigh*

Listen, we&#039;re a reasonable bunch. If restrictive gun control actually had a positive influence on public safety, we would be all for it. But millions of people giving up their hobbies, sports, livelihood (both jobs AND sustenance hunting) and a very important part of our heritage isn&#039;t something to be taken lightly.

The thing is, the anti-gun crowd is broadly composed of habitual liars that make a profit from restrictive gun legislation (Like the GfGC), hoplophobes (Who should go get psychiatric help) and &quot;useful idiots&quot; who are woefully ignorant/misinformed on the topic (youtube: &quot;What is a barrel shroud?&quot;).

I make sure to thoroughly verify all &quot;facts&quot; I come across, regardless from which camp it comes from before I use them in a debate. The massive number of BLATANT LIES from the anti-gun camp is absolutely staggering. If gun control truly had a positive impact on personal and public safety, then you wouldn&#039;t constantly need to LIE to me to convince me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Sigh*</p>
<p>Listen, we&#8217;re a reasonable bunch. If restrictive gun control actually had a positive influence on public safety, we would be all for it. But millions of people giving up their hobbies, sports, livelihood (both jobs AND sustenance hunting) and a very important part of our heritage isn&#8217;t something to be taken lightly.</p>
<p>The thing is, the anti-gun crowd is broadly composed of habitual liars that make a profit from restrictive gun legislation (Like the GfGC), hoplophobes (Who should go get psychiatric help) and &#8220;useful idiots&#8221; who are woefully ignorant/misinformed on the topic (youtube: &#8220;What is a barrel shroud?&#8221;).</p>
<p>I make sure to thoroughly verify all &#8220;facts&#8221; I come across, regardless from which camp it comes from before I use them in a debate. The massive number of BLATANT LIES from the anti-gun camp is absolutely staggering. If gun control truly had a positive impact on personal and public safety, then you wouldn&#8217;t constantly need to LIE to me to convince me.</p>
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		<title>By: 2.71828183&#8230; &#187; First they came for the serial numbers&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>2.71828183&#8230; &#187; First they came for the serial numbers&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] out of bogus statistics and fallacious arguments to peddle about guns and domestic violence, Elizabeth Mandelman has moved on to another time-honoured anti-gun talking point: suicides. (School shootings is coming [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] out of bogus statistics and fallacious arguments to peddle about guns and domestic violence, Elizabeth Mandelman has moved on to another time-honoured anti-gun talking point: suicides. (School shootings is coming [...]</p>
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